Thanks Vellum ! Like Monks said really - its like reaching a plateau and then taking a breath before staring at the next precipice. You gotta look around and stare back at the view from time to time but this is not the summit. Even where we are I would not have predicted that we would get to. But with the addition of outerra it was like being given a boost so that we just had to get this integrated. From my point of view I merely write the glue that connects Monk's work to Outerras work both left and right of me look pretty amazing and I would have not said that either were possible with a few guys and home PCs but they have. There are some 3D models of Minas Tirith which are so good you would also say its not possible until you see them so I hope to persuade them to come to the party.