Well the map making tiles I use to make the city maps for my games recommends tiled. But I ran into a pretty significant problem when I tried to mix buildings and trees together. Tiled bases which object comes to the front based on which object has the greatest potion of itself being overlapped. Instead of just first come first served. Which you can imagine makes it, not doable. So I need an alternative mapping program. I tried looking through your big list of programs, but its so badly out of date that combined with my limited knowledge of the jargon, leaves me feeling helpless. Help please?