I know, I have tons of hand drawn maps, city's, massive cities with around a thousand houses. A lot of people say they don't have the patients to draw them but I love it.

And I checked out the tutorial you mentioned torstan, it didn't really tell me how to draw anything particular. It was awesome though to learn a little more about the right pens and pencils.

I'm gonna post a map that I started last night here in a bit.