Hmmm... maybe I would, at that. Trouble is that I asked thomrey if he would kindly draw the whole wall for me, rather than attempt to split the job between us, so I kind of owe him a favour. It depends how tall he builds that wall as to whether I start to shout 'not fair!' I can give him about 25 foot of shadow space before it gets to be a pain, so he can have a 50-60 foot wall if he wants