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    Good sculpture ! Many chisel broken ?

    Being picky, I would notice some rivers stopping just before the sea... hopefully, I'm not (picky)

    Your alchemy is working !

    Is there a way to make the mountains appear less flat ? I think if you draw shadows on the whole flank of the mountain that is supposed to be in the shadows, the whole « block » of mountains should appear more in relief... what I mean, is that the detailed shadows are very well done, but if your rivers are down a valley, then the whole mountains flank facing SE (I think) should be in the shadows ?
    Does it makes any sense, what I'm trying to write ? If not... then I'm sorry, and it probably not important...

    Sorry if I interfere in your process ... I meant no harm

    Édit : or it’s an issue of scale maybe : if the whole island is 150 miles wide, then maybe the mountains are too small ? Not enough coal or grease ?
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    I think you're right JO, the mountains are tiny for a 150 miles long island. Wilbur carved out the land and put the rivers in. It seems that there are a lot of valleys that used to be rivers but dried up at some stage, or something like that. If only this was the 'map it wrong' challenge then I could really mess about with scales and stuff.

    I think I might have shoved coal into places I shouldn't have. Or I could just blame Waldronate for programming it wrong, I mean he should have foresaw my map when he set out to do this thing and made concessions for it

    Seriously I think I'm going to take a few more cracks at this. The grey scale height map that I bring in to Wilbur needs to be a lot lighter overall I think. I should adjust the levels quite significantly and perhaps do some 'painting' of the peaks/ridges. I only started using it today. And there are a lot of buttons, levers, switches and cogs to grease in that little package as well. I don't even think I've scratched the surface with it.

    Another thing is I think I can use it to output a contour map and use that as I have done with previous maps, to manually add relief shading and do my rivers by hand. I have 2 weeks and a few days to decide before I suddenly redo the whole thing from scratch in the last 3 days


    EDIT: I've just been and measured on my screen - how wide is a mountain range? The ones to the north of the map are 10 miles across but they aren't very long.
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    This map has an interesting evolution, Straf

    The only real help I can give you is this: Stretch the height map from black at sea level to absolutely white on the tops of the peaks, and concentrate on drawing the shape of the ranges rather than individual hills and mountains. The smaller divisions will appear when you use Wilbur

    Also - that its very rare to get the height map exactly right the first time around... or even the second or third...
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    Would it surprise you if I said I haven't done any drawing whatsoever here? My Wacom hasn't left the drawer.

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    I've lost a bit of my initial enthusiasm for this. I need to think about it some more. I think I need a story, perhaps its discovery, and who was already there if anyone. Bare ladies and dodos may or may not feature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straf View Post
    I've lost a bit of my initial enthusiasm for this. I need to think about it some more. I think I need a story, perhaps its discovery, and who was already there if anyone. Bare ladies and dodos may or may not feature.
    It's early, and I'm still half asleep -- and that totally did NOT say "dodos" the first time I read it... :/

    That being said, I hope you find your motivation again. You're off to a great start!


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    Quote Originally Posted by industrygothica View Post
    It's early, and I'm still half asleep -- and that totally did NOT say "dodos" the first time I read it... :/
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    That being said, I hope you find your motivation again. You're off to a great start!


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    Thanks but the terrain doesn't feel quite right. Perhaps I need to add a mainland...

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    I don’t know what you mean by mainland, but if it’s a place without mountain on your island, I think you’re right : (in a strange way, it could help you to build those mountains...) On the east side, for example, you could suppress two mountains (one down south on the coast, the other in the middle, a bit on the north, add forest and maybe plains and the island would look more « right » ?

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    I misread it the same as IG did, guess that says a lot about us guys "Minds in the gutter"

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    Quote Originally Posted by - JO - View Post
    I don’t know what you mean by mainland, but if it’s a place without mountain on your island, I think you’re right : (in a strange way, it could help you to build those mountains...) On the east side, for example, you could suppress two mountains (one down south on the coast, the other in the middle, a bit on the north, add forest and maybe plains and the island would look more « right » ?
    I meant mainland in terms of this being an island off the main body of land that rules it. Like how the island of Eurasia and Africa is an island off the coast of Britain.

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    I misread it the same as IG did, guess that says a lot about us guys "Minds in the gutter"
    I suppose I could state there's a serious squatting problem on the island

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