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    It takes a huge factor more to train the AI model than it does to run the AI model to make images from it. The amount of computing power to run the AI to generate images is on the desktop level. The amount of compute to train it kind of depends on how big the model is. But the ones which are working very well and produce the good results are huge and therefore only able to be trained on big clusters of servers like the sort that Amazon and Google have.

    The 6 digit hands, text, and many of the other issues that the current AI models have will be fixed in no time. There will be other tells but most of the obvious ones will be gone by the next year or two.

    The soul thing you see is because the AI is not intelligent and is reproducing the style of other peoples work. Though not exact copies, it is extracting the average essence of all other peoples work and producing its own from it. Its like generic pop music and other generic forms of art. It will have creativity but never have true unique exceptional brilliance. Its good for mundane generic art for which there is a whole lot needed in the world. But don't expect anything truly novel and ground breaking from it (in the art / pictures area) from AI.

    The reason we have human brilliance is that each person is its own trained (A)I based on their unique experience in the world. When we have so many of these trained models that it makes up millions of them then we might expect some of them to be different, unique and have something surprising to add into the worlds creativity.

    Computer AI models need to have feelings, experiences, taste, smell and all sorts of other non image input put into them before it can create new picture art from them. Right now all that happens is that millions of pictures are fed in. Like a baby growing up inside a white featureless box with no other experiences except a continuous stream of images flashed before it. Your not going to get any human wisdom or soul from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrobes View Post
    The reason we have human brilliance is that each person is its own trained (A)I based on their unique experience in the world. When we have so many of these trained models that it makes up millions of them then we might expect some of them to be different, unique and have something surprising to add into the worlds creativity.

    Computer AI models need to have feelings, experiences, taste, smell and all sorts of other non image input put into them before it can create new picture art from them. Right now all that happens is that millions of pictures are fed in. Like a baby growing up inside a white featureless box with no other experiences except a continuous stream of images flashed before it. Your not going to get any human wisdom or soul from it.
    Never thought about it... how every person is basic an AI model.

    The thing for me is that, personally, I'm an enthusiast of AI as an tool, but I hope it stays as a tool. Things evolve so fast that personally I'm afraid that it might replace the need of human creativity in the future - we wouldn't need artists anymore, AI would just create new things for us.

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    In general, I'm not for AI for creating art. Because it's not really creating art. it's creating the average of what people have done, and so it doesn't push things forward. There are area's that I can see it being cost effective. For example, there's a YouTube channel I watch, that's self produced, about the unexplained, mysteries, cryptoids, that kind of thing. They have started using AI. But it's a thing one person, is putting out, by himself. He makes money off of it. It makes the videos more interesting rather than just him talking, when there's no images available. If he hired artists to create images, he wouldn't be able to afford to keep doing these.

    But if a person considers themselves an artist. I have to admit, once they start using AI, I lose respect for them as an artist. They go from being an artist, to being a hobbyist in my mind.

    But AI isn't going away. It's just learning and starting. Thankfully I will be retired or dead when it truly becomes AI.

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