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    ok, since you asked, it looks like the Province of Gondor named Lebennin is spelt Labennin.

    Just north of Belfalas Bay "Angmar" appears on the map, should be Anfalas, as in Anfalas, Belfalas, and Tolfalas, which run west to east along the coast.
    Angmar is in the north of the Misty Mts,,,the big claw.

    Enedhwaith, the open heath between southern Eriador and the Isen, is spelt Enedwaith on the map, needs an "h" after the "d"..

    Monks, what projection and extents are you using in GM for the "Render" hfz, since the hfz file does not include that info when I open it I get a 10005 x 10005 heightfield covering less than a 2 x 2 arc degree area ,,,,,some where around 20 meter per pixel res, so pretty small coverage 200000 meters by 200000 meters total...the meta data in the control center ought to have the data,


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    Thanks for the labeling tips - ill sort that out right away.

    Since the shire is supposed to be about where I live and I am at 52 deg north and ME is based on our world then it seems to be that radius is 6371km so thats 3922km at 52 deg so circumference would be 24645 and the map is 4000km across so that's 58.43 degrees of map in the middle. I don't know our map projection tho.

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    Here's the metadata for the Vector frame quadrant we are using. All the exports get clipped to this.

    FILENAME=E:\ME-DEM\VERSION_1.0\VectorFrame.shp
    DESCRIPTION=VectorFrame.shp
    AREA COUNT=1
    LINE COUNT=0
    POINT COUNT=0
    UPPER LEFT X=-411.375
    UPPER LEFT Y=2000348.034
    LOWER RIGHT X=2000311.377
    LOWER RIGHT Y=-348.038
    WEST LONGITUDE=1° 43' 24.7340" W
    NORTH LATITUDE=18° 05' 26.4494" N
    EAST LONGITUDE=17° 01' 23.2164" E
    SOUTH LATITUDE=0° 00' 11.3350" S
    PROJ_DESC=UTM Zone 31 / NAD83 / meters
    PROJ_DATUM=NAD83
    PROJ_UNITS=meters
    COVERED AREA=1545499 sq mi



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    Quote Originally Posted by monks View Post
    It's 4000 km across to the T. whatever that is in miles to the gallon...
    Quote Originally Posted by Redrobes View Post
    ...and the map is 4000km across so that's 58.43 degrees of map in the middle.
    Quote Originally Posted by monks View Post
    Here's the metadata for the Vector frame quadrant we are using...

    UPPER LEFT X=-411.375
    UPPER LEFT Y=2000348.034
    LOWER RIGHT X=2000311.377
    LOWER RIGHT Y=-348.038
    WEST LONGITUDE=1° 43' 24.7340" W
    NORTH LATITUDE=18° 05' 26.4494" N
    EAST LONGITUDE=17° 01' 23.2164" E
    SOUTH LATITUDE=0° 00' 11.3350" S
    PROJ_UNITS=meters
    Hmm there seems to be a mismatch between figures here. The meta data is claiming 2000.750km or so instead of 4000 so the 18 degrees would be much more if 4000Km. Confused now. Other maps have it much more like 4000km than 2000.

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    Just messin about with DF... Although ME is not the most stimulating map in 3D due to its continental size its much easier to see stuff like these brown lands being raised now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrobes View Post
    Since the shire is supposed to be about where I live and I am at 52 deg north and ME is based on our world then it seems to be that radius is 6371km so thats 3922km at 52 deg so circumference would be 24645 and the map is 4000km across so that's 58.43 degrees of map in the middle. I don't know our map projection tho.
    This reminded me of a map I stumbled across the otehr day when looking for some inspiration. I'm sure you've probably seen it before but here's the link.
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    running the render now guys for the update. No more modeling work on this now...

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    Yeh Steel General I've seen that one before. It's kind interesting, especially as we have ideas to use real world dems (terrain models) on a future version . The problem with going to far with this direct comparison is that if you try and force Middle Earth timeline into the real earth timeline you find yourself back in an ice age. That's great news if you'e simply looking at the coastline- it fits better because the sea level is lower. But one major oversight is the fact all that water has to go somewhere. It ends up as a mile high ice sheet covering the UK down to somewhere like Oxford. As that is where Hobbiton The Shire is, that's not good news!

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