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    I'm in

    I changed the 'Legacy Support' to enabled, but...

    Its not a straightforward start up.

    As I remember it (I'm here now so I'll just try to remember it for you), I pressed the on button and got a black screen with a little prompt at the bottom saying 'press esc to get start menu'. It takes you to a list of available OS, two of which were identical 'Ubuntu...etc' directly beneath the OS Boot Manager (which I presume would have taken me to Win 10 because that's what it does anyway).

    I selected the top Ubuntu of the two in the list and pressed enter. then Mint started up and asked me for my password.

    So here I am - working in my installation of Mint

    I'm happy with this, even though its a clunky way of starting up.

    Lets face it - I'm never going to be selling this machine, as its the only one I've got for a couple of years yet, so the only thing that matters is that I know how to use either of the OSs on my system

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    Die laughing....

    MS just sent me a customer satisfaction survey thing, asking if I would recommend Win 10 to my friends.....


    hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...... oh my sides hurt! hahahahahahahahah..........

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    I'd just like to thank all of you again for your outstanding support in this matter.

    You're simply the best

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    I'm glad you've got it working, Mouse.

    I don't think the ip4/6 stuff you highlighted in your pic is relevant. I think that's related to network booting, not something we're doing here. I think up nearer the top where it says 'Legacy support' might be more relevant.

    One thing to try is the update grub command. Now if your BIOS isn't set correctly, this won't make much difference, but there's a small chance it might help. You need to open a terminal (yes, straight to the command line!). Press Ctrl+Alt+T and the terminal should open. Then type...

    sudo update-grub

    It'll ask you for your password. Type it (nothing will show on screen) then press enter. Grub will scan your system for all OSs and update itself. I'm not certain this will make any difference if the BIOS settings are screwy, but it's worth a short.
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    I will try that ChickPea...

    I think I spoke too soon when I declared success.

    I tried to look at the Windows files from Mint and this is what I've got:

    SDC12299.JPG

    I'm all worn out now, so I'm going to take a break for a couple of hours. It looks like I'm going to have to switch it back to the way it was before - legacy disabled and no direct Mint access.

    If I can't get this to work properly I may have to give up on all but the smaller maps.

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    No, I don't think this is necessarily a big issue. Windows uses a thing called 'fast boot' which allows it to shutdown and restart quickly. You need to disable that. It might take Windows a little longer to start each time you use it, but it gives you the advantage of sharing folders.

    Here's more info, or just skip down the article to the bit about how to turn it off...

    https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the...-startup-mode/

    EDIT... it's possible fast boot may be interfering with your start up problems too. Either way, try disabling it.
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    Yeah, I thought we'd already disabled that a while ago. Maybe not. Fast boot is the thing that sends Windows into hibernate rather than shut down completely. It can cause havoc if you 'shut down' and then your battery runs out. Fast boot isn't that fast either, given that it's all the faffing about that Windows does that takes up all of the time.

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    You were right

    I disabled the fast boot, and now I can see all the Windows folders and get to all my existing artwork from Mint without having to move it around. I can also see a whole load of other stuff that Win 10 usually hides from me. I guess that's the knickers you were talking about Straf

    Haven't tried rebooting Win 10 just yet. It will be interesting to see just how slow it is.

    I'm going to do that sudo thing you suggested before I close Mint, and see if I get a better startup experience - thanks ChickPea

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    Hurrah!

    YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

    And it only took 4 minutes (I timed it on my phone) to boot Win 10... which is about what it took before I turned Fast Boot off anyway. That's how annoying Win 10 had become on this particular laptop.

    I now officially have a dual boot laptop

    The sudo command didn't change the startup sequence any, but I am perfectly happy with things the way they are now.

    THANK YOU *Big hug and kiss*

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    YAY!!! High fives to all Linux geeks everywhere, now including Mouse!

    Your next map must feature penguins!
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