How far a horse travels in one day

[ravells]

Wow, an apache foot warrior could travel 70 miles in one day? That's amazing.

[kortleggur]

Wow, an apache foot warrior could travel 70 miles in one day? That's amazing.

no, that was a mistake, they did use horses

I looked up the source

see: Richard M. Gaines. (2000). The Apache [Juvenile Non-Fiction]. Edina, MN: Abdo Pub

They loved to take horses.

[Larb]

That would exhaust the horse though, surely. Could they keep that pace up over more than one day?

[Chick]

That would exhaust the horse though, surely. Could they keep that pace up over more than one day?

In the old endurance races, contestants averaged 50-70 miles/day for 2 weeks. http://www.thelongridersguild.com/chadron.htm
More modern endurance riding usually consists of 100 miles in one day.
The movie Hidalgo was mostly fiction, but that kind of riding did exist. The movie Bite the Bullet was a more realistic depiction of the contests. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072705/

[kortleggur]

In the old endurance races, contestants averaged 50-70 miles/day for 2 weeks. http://www.thelongridersguild.com/chadron.htm
More modern endurance riding usually consists of 100 miles in one day.

I read this, it was fun... Here are some quotes

"[THE HARD WAY] Those in the know, and plenty in Chadron claimed that honor, said the winner would have to set a pace of 50 – 60 miles a day to win the race. Old Joe Gillespie, aged 58 and weighing the heaviest at 185, wasn’t given much chance. Little Davy Douglas was still a lad in his early teens and thought to have a slim chance too. [...] Though there were no mountains to cross the mileage involved made it impressive. [...] Folks back then talked about how a hose had a “deep bottom,” referring to his staying power. [...] During the heat of the Nebraska summer days the cowboys averaged four miles an hour. During the cool hours of early morning and evening, they doubled the pace. [...] [THE WINNER IS] however, [he] was the “sorriest, sleepiest and tiredest” man anyone had ever seen. He had averaged seventy miles a day, covered the last 150 miles in twenty-four hours, and been in the saddle eight hours short of two weeks. During the next 48 hours the rest of the riders struggled in."

There are many things in this quote that is useful.

Heat is a major variable: "The rider will move 4 miles an hour (~ 6,5 km/h) if it is daytime heat, otherwise he will travel double, or 8 miles per hour (~ 12,9 km/h)." so if we look at the Chadron, Nebraska, June Average low-high daily temperature it is "53.1 - 80.5 °F (11,7 - 26,9 °C) based on 1981–2010 data from NOAA"

But this is without adventure equipment like feed, swords and armour, and other treasures. like one of the riders wasn’t given much chance because of age and "weighing the heaviest at 185 (pounds?, that would be then 84 kg)" The rules of the contest stated saddles weighing should be at least 35 pounds (16 kg) and rider, saddle and blanket are to weigh not less than 150 pounds (68 kg).

It is also worthy to note that topology is mention: " Though there were no mountains to cross".

So for a simulation it could be something like a formula for max horse speed in endurance based on this would be 8 miles per hour (~ 12,9 km/h) / ((Weather or heat modifier, what is max heat for a horse?) + (Burden modifier, max 400-600 lb) + (Topology modifier, scrubs and elevation )) = ?


Then there is also the risk of injury for the horse when going to its endurance level.

[ravells]

But this is without adventure equipment like feed, swords and armour, and other treasures.

Bags of holding should be sold as standard with horses

[acrosome]

Andrew Skurka is perhaps the world's only professional hiker, and he can do 35 mile days rather handily. He's an ultralight prophet, however.

[kortleggur]

Andrew Skurka is perhaps the world's only professional hiker, and he can do 35 mile days (56 km days) rather handily. He's an ultralight prophet, however.

From http://andrewskurka.com/2006/how-to-...ast-thru-hike/

* The formula: the Time (days) = the Distance divided by the Rate

* When I need to put in a long day, I find it more effective to walk at a comfortable, controlled, constant speed—simply for more hours. If you routinely hike 15+ hours per day you may find the limitation of this approach, as sleep deprivation can become an issue.

* Many hikers get in shape “on the trail” by starting with 5-10 miles (8-16 km) per day and slowly building up.

* A lighter load is the only way to increase Miles_Hiked_Per_Hour

Out of shape:
* 5-10 miles (8-16 km) per day

Young novice:
* 23 miles (37 km) per day

Trained expert:
* 38-43 miles (61-69) per day (variables: terrain, trail quality, season, and trail culture)

* Disciplined walking at a stride 4 miles/hour, start at 7:00, 4 miles (6,4 km) by 8:00, 8 miles (12,9 km) by 9:00, 12 miles (19,3 km) by 10:00, 16 miles (25,7 km) by 11:00, 20 miles (32,2 km) by 12:00.

And from: http://andrewskurka.com/2014/north-f...e-pace-charts/

** 6 miles/hour (9,7 km/h) is running like running a marathon.
Skurka can take 50 miles on 6.25 miles/hours (10 km/h) in just over 7 and 1/3 hours, but then he will be stiff, sore, and slow and needs some two days of rest before doing it again.

[kortleggur]

Bags of holding should be sold as standard with horses

In one RPG adventure, we traveled by the African Swallow Coconut. An Animal Messenger spell, a Bag of Holding spell and a Magnificent Mansion spell are infused with the coconut, the coconut holder speaks the destination and a swallow will come, the party enters the coconut via the Mansion Entrance. The Swallow will then pick up the Coconut and fly it to its destination, leaving the travelers well rested after the flight.

[Mark Oliva]

When we started making our products, we did a good bit of research on this question and found - as the thread up to this point shows - that here are many experts on this theme who have widely divergent points of view. We consolidated our results and came up with the table below for our Jörðgarð (TM) campaign setting.

Be cautioned. This table probably is no more (or less) accurate than anyone else's. It's just another possibility.

Travel Times Upon the Jörð – 12-Hour Day with Short Pauses

Walking/Miles Walking/Kilometers Horseback/Miles Horseback/Kilometers Landscape
28 45 43 69 Forest Track - Flat
24 39 38 61 Forest Track - Rolling
18 29 27 43 Forest Track - Hilly
9 14 8 13 Forest Track - Mountain
24 39 Horses must be led on foot Forest Path - Flat
18 29 Horses must be led on foot Forest Path - Rolling
9 14 Horses must be led on foot Forest Path - Hilly
5 8 Horses must be led on foot Forest Path - Mountain
30 50 45 72 Open – Flat Track
25 40 40 65 Open – Rolling Track
20 32 30 50 Open – Hilly Track
10 15 15 25 Open – Mountain Track
25 40 40 72 Open – No Trail
20 32 30 50 Open, Rolling – No Trail
15 25 25 40 Open, Hilly – No Trail
8 13 12 19 Open, Mount. – No Trail
28 45 43 69 Prairie, Flat
24 39 38 61 Prairie, Rolling
18 29 27 43 Prairie, Hilly
18 29 27 43 Moderate Swamp, Marsh
9 14 8 13 Swamp, Marsh
4 6 Horses must be led on foot Swamp, Marsh Quicksand
30 50 45 72 Desert, Hard Ground
20 32 30 50 Desert, Soft Ground
5 8 12 (Camel) 19 (Camel) Desert, Sand
20 32 30 50 River ford, to 1 foot /30 cm
10 15 15 25 River ford, to 2 feet/60 cm

Modifiers: Thick undergrowth or brush, - 15%. Frequent potholes, etc., - 50%. Strong river current, -50%. Dodging ranged attacks, -75%.