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    Quote Originally Posted by Impractical Cartographer View Post
    I'm not a watercolorist. I use watercolors to a very limited purposes to colour or shade something. I had a problem with the fact that even small amounts of water deformed my favorite paper. So I started experimenting. I thought: if the alcohol markers don't deform my paper, maybe I should try adding alcohol to the paints. And that's how it started
    It started like most alcohol themed experiments then: "what if I just try it and see what happens!"
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    My chemical two cents :

    From what I know, bright colors are often what we call chemical complex : ions combined to other molecules (often water) to change the interaction of the substance with light. Swapping water for alcohol has a chance (risk ?) to alter the color. Using solvents like ammonia or acetone might have an altering effect too. One could easily play with a palette and see the results (but it's gonna be smelly). An issue : how would the paper react to acids and bases ? Also, alcohol, even if it's evaporating for the most part will remain in small doses and will eventually get oxidized into organic acids and that might change the color with time, air and light exposure or weaken the fabric of the paper.

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    PS : on a personal note, I love all the ideas expressed here and might try some if I find the time

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    I need to try that.
    Lots of good info in this thread

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    Yes, this is a good discussion for me to file away for later...

    I'm loving your tree work!

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    Little change of subject.

    Labeling and layering in hand-drawn maps.
    Perhaps many of you will consider it a trivial issue. But it was very difficult for me.
    Then I learned the basics of calligraphy and... it was still difficult.
    On digital maps, it was simple - the text was the last layer.
    While drawing I had to completely reverse the arrangement of layers.

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    By trial and error method I discovered the correct order of drawing.
    1. Towns icons and names.
    2. Main labels - names of countries, geographical areas, mountains, etc.
    3. Rivers.
    4. Coastline.
    5. Legend and description of the map.
    6. And when it's all written down, I start drawing the rest. An additional reason is that most mistakes can be made with calligraphy - typos, misspelling, ink blobs - so when I start drawing I prefer get this risk of over with .
    7. The roads at the end.

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    And how do you arrange layers on your maps? Can you give me a hint? Share your mistakes?

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    I usually lightly pencil in the geography, then pencil in the lettering to get a sense of label sizes. After that, I'm not so careful about order of operations when I add the ink - but then, if I added borders around the lettering or I was doing calligraphy, I probably would put the labels down first.

    Typically, though, I end up doing coastline, then mountains, then rivers, then forests. That's because I tend to do the fine placement of features organically, so where the mountains are determines where the rivers flow, then where the water is suggests where the trees go, and so on. I do have exceptions for things like mountains drawn in perspective obscuring the shoreline.

    Your pencil-shaded relief mountains are awesome.

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    Meanwhile... I just got a scan.
    The map of Middle-earth that I drew for my niece as a Christmas present.

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    Ink, colored pencils & pastels.

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    In the meantime, I'm breathless...



    My Facebook's fan took a scan of my map and made a video he sent me as a gift.

    I don't know what to write. Wow!

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    Woah man, that's fantastic. And they did a great job with it too!

    But let's face it, they would never have done this if it weren't for your magnificent ME map, which is an absolute piece of art. My hat off to you sir!

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